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11-01-2006, 10:09 AM | #1 | |
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Re: evolution- yes/no
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11-01-2006, 10:41 AM | #2 |
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Re: evolution- yes/no
I was wondering that too. Im still confused as to what happened before birth. I'd like to see some peoples ideas on that. Good question Spec!
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11-01-2006, 05:15 PM | #3 | ||
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11-01-2006, 05:27 PM | #4 | |
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10-31-2006, 05:36 PM | #5 |
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Nice info Kaze... Very nice info indeed! And about spec's question: I think that is pure faith. =)
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10-31-2006, 05:42 PM | #6 |
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My faith is in the Nature, and evolution.
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10-31-2006, 06:07 PM | #7 | |
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On the reverse side, I can see why people don't believe in god, and why it seems "far-fetched" that there is a God, but faith is what keeps me believing.
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11-01-2006, 09:49 AM | #8 |
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Re: evolution- yes/no
Like a lot of you has said, it is just about faith. Some have it, some don't. I don't so therefore I belive in evolution.
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11-01-2006, 05:38 PM | #9 |
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Re: evolution- yes/no
Why would you ask if He is using us as puppets? Of course He knew it would happen, but He also knows that we (as humans) wouldnt be humans if we didnt have free will - we WOULD be puppets so He allowed us to make suffering.
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11-01-2006, 05:42 PM | #10 | |
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btw... in the last years, a rattlesnake from... hum... don't remember, but it was in America, evolved to a different Specie. Is that enough to you to believe that evolution does exist? (I'm not saying that both god and evolution can't exist at the same time, I just don't believe in him) |
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11-01-2006, 05:55 PM | #11 |
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Re: evolution- yes/no
When it comes to evolutionism, it's not a matter of believing in it. It's based on actual facts.
The Christian God is based on what? Stories. Facts and faith are two different things. Don't get them mixed up. |
11-02-2006, 10:34 PM | #12 | |
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I'd like to take a stab at aswering this also. Evolution is also based on faith. Have you ever (personally) seen a change in the physical form of a species? Where you there when the spark of life (and where did that spark come from anyway?) made a single-celled lifeform out of muck? No, evolutionism is also based on faith. Either you put your faith in God and stop trying to do things your way. Or you put your faith in science - and we've all seen how great destruction that power can wield. Or you put your faith in nothing...which, by the way, is still belief in something.
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11-03-2006, 03:36 PM | #13 |
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Well, yes, ultimately each religion, and also each science is based on a belief, I'm not ignoring that factor! Now, I'm not a scientologist or anything, but the thing is:
Theories such as evolutionism are far more appealing, due to logistics. Logistics that make sense towards our world, the human way of thinking and living. Men could say that everything is made up. Which, when you look at philosophy: theories work out, especially in science, they work out for humans 'cause they make perfect sense, and work out for human life. We all agree on Einstein's formula's, but when you look back to the first scientific theories: They were made up, but with perfect logistics! (And for the record: I believe in natural forces, God as a cosmic force, not the Christian version, portrayed as a person.) But just to say, something like evolutionism is certainly partially based on a faith, on the belief that it works. Faith in something that doesn't work, but just causes a kind of spiritual comfort (such as Christianity), that's not really for my way of living the life; although it's definetly fullfilling thinking about it. |
11-01-2006, 07:13 PM | #14 |
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Re: evolution- yes/no
To Avathar: Read my post on the first page please. My opinion is that still believing in a fact with so many flaws is like believeing that a bucket with many holes can still retain water.
To Spec: It couldnt have just evolved just like that. One of the fundamentals of the theory of evolution is that a species evolves over a period of time based on a gradual yet distintive change on its phenotype and genotype - and it would take millions of years for that to happen so the rattlesnake species cant just change its genes in anything less than a million years. Also I dont think that America has changed that much in a number of years....
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11-01-2006, 07:38 PM | #15 | |
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But then again, look at communism: the theory works perfectly. Kinda compareable to evolutionism: some parts of the ideas actually work, and hold on to facts. But people hold on more to the flaws, 'cause they cause greater effect on society. And for evolutionism: it causes flaws, due to the conflict with religion. The power of faith is strong, without a doubt, but for me, actual facts are for more prefereable. Although this turns more into a religious discussion, it's quite inevetable. Evolution can be prooven (even though it has flaws), so, holding a believe into that theory is stronger than a believe in something that is based on so called experiences. |
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