Same Sex Marrige - Page 3

Avathar · 11-01-2006, 06:01 PM

Religion, lol.

Gay couples should be allowed to get married, no matter what.

If they truly love eachother, then why stop it?
Okay, if they live in a community where there's still conservative believing that homo-sexual is an evil and unnatural something, then it will be harsh for the gay couples, so be it.

Now, I'm not a very religious kinda guy, but respecting beliefs, although not believing them: Gay marriage allowed: yes.

But Christian Gay marriage? That's something else, since then it would be "evil and unnatural", according to the Christian believe!

Staircase · 11-01-2006, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Avathar

But Christian Gay marriage? That's something else, since then it would be "evil and unnatural", according to the Christian believe!

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Originally Posted by Staircase

I think the bible has some things in it that aren't true, that people have passed over time. I don't think Jesus himself said that Gay marriage is unacceptable, i think it was an older Christian belief from BC when the Churches were used more as a ruling power than a church. But then again, i may be totally wrong and anger some people, but thats just my belief on the subject at hand. =)

Thats my opinion on that. =)

But i do totally agree with ya Avathar,
"Gay couples should be allowed to get married, no matter what."

Spec Highwind · 11-01-2006, 06:06 PM

hum... Avathar... have you been thinking about religion in the last month? xD

Hydra · 11-01-2006, 06:57 PM

I doubt it.

It's just very easy to see.

Avathar · 11-01-2006, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Spec

hum... Avathar... have you been thinking about religion in the last month? xD

Oh, I've always had my thoughts on religion. And I'm glad for these threads, that actual decent discussions can be made!

Luis · 11-02-2006, 03:00 PM

I'm glad of it too Av.

Honestly, I voted yes. They should be able to do it. In fact, they're able to do it in Spain. But what kind of marriage do you mean? Because I understand if you marry in the City Hall, but I find it a li'l strange if you mean marriage in The Church, since it's against it. I mean, if what you want is to get married, I think that doing it in a non-religious way would be good and enough, ''cause after all you get married, and we all know The Church is against it too.

However, if you wanna do it under a religious point of view, I don't see the problem either, but the religious community will.

LOVE IS FREE FOR EVERYONE

John Smith · 11-02-2006, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Luis

In fact, they're able to do it in Spain. But what kind of marriage do you mean?

Yeah, there was a law relesed in there some months ago, wasn't it?

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LOVE IS FREE FOR EVERYONE

YAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!! LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBE!!! (YES, LOBE

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Luis · 11-03-2006, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by John Smith

Yeah, there was a law relesed in there some months ago, wasn't it?

Yeah... And once again: <3<3 LOVE IS FREE <3<3

Staircase · 11-02-2006, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Luis

''cause after all you get married, and we all know The Church is against it too.

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Originally Posted by Avathar

But Christian Gay marriage? That's something else, since then it would be "evil and unnatural", according to the Christian believe!

I think people are getting a little mixed up here. Catholics (and some other forms of Christianity, but mostly Catholics) believe in no gay marriage, methodists (which I am) are a lot different. We still believe in a god, and all that Christian stuff, but Gay marriage is allowed. Heck, we've broken all the catholic rules, we've had women pastors, we've actually held Gay marriage ceremonies in our church, we even have a poker night where the teens get together and gamble. I know a lot of other forms of Christianity that allow gay marriage, but Catholic is just the most known form of Christianity.

Unknown Kaze · 11-03-2006, 09:13 PM

Not off the top of my head at this moment (being in college) but I will dig some up for you...

Seyluv · 11-03-2006, 10:00 PM

Here is my essay, I hate how I written it, but whatever

Same Sex Marriage

Over the years, Humans have fought many wars to earn certain rights, as well as raged war to make other believed a certain way they do. From fighting for religon rights, to equal rights, and even race rights. To be treated equaly is the American Dream to many, but what is it really? As the years go by we all learn from the mistakes we made in the past. Yet there is still to this day a lot of fights and wars people are fighting. The new battle heating up in our society is the battle for Same sex marriage. Should gay people have the right to married? Can you love be about more then just about sex? Are gays treated the same as we?

An friend once told me that ? We are all people, that gays have the same rights as we. Just what the problem with them being able to marry.? Getting back to what I said early we for many years have been fighting for rights and freedom. Why now in this age are people to take the right for gays to marry. I don?t understand, we lived in America. This land we live in is supposed to be the land of freedom. We all supposed to have equal rights, just why does it really matter if you are gay or not. Another thing I don?t get is that in this land we all live in there is a law that states that no one can speak or even discuss religion in a public place or so. Anyway a lot of people in this great battle are all saying and even some politics that it is a ?Sin? for two people of the same sex to get married. That men and women are made to be together. If this is a law that no one can speak about regions then why are all these people are trying to make this debate based on regions?

"Love isn?t just sex". Love to me is being happy with the person you love, and keeping your vows true. I really don?t have a problem with any two men or females getting married. I?d rather see a gay happy couple then a straight sad couple. If they?re happy with each other and truly in love, then why not give them that right. I know we all see things differently, but just because he/she thinks it nasty for two people to be married doesn?t mean we have a right to take away their right. Love shouldn?t be decided by your race or even your sex. Love is for all people it really shouldn?t matter what you are. All that matters is that you love strongly that person you want to married.

Are gay people treated differently in our society? What do you think? Is it easy to be gay in our society? I believe that one thing gay people really bring out that is really is amazing is their courage. It?s hard these days, well in most time periods to come out and say I?m gay. To just come out and tell your parents or even your straight lover. To come out as they do is quiet amazing to me. But when they do come out, they life changes in many ways. They are looked at differently and even turn down from some things just because of their sexuality. They are not always treated equal by everyone. For example in the past wars, gays weren?t allowed to enlisted in the military. Only a few years back it they finality got that right.

It isn?t all bad being gay. Over the past years people have begun to accept same sex couples. More and more people and even famous people we grew to love have even came out and said that they are gay.. It has became more easier to come out now in our society. I hope one day to see gay people being treated equally as well as any group of people. I hope I have change you mind on the gay community. As you know now gays have fought for these rights as we. Gay people are human just as we. We all have the same rights and it doesn?t matter what you believed. We are all different and we all think and feel differently. Lastly there really isn?t no rule that can say who we can and cannot love.

John Smith · 11-03-2006, 10:08 PM

Nice. Appart for some spelling mistakes >.>

Seyluv · 11-03-2006, 10:33 PM

Yeah, I made a lot of mistakes, but whatever as long as I get graded. I don't see how I did nine essays in one day laast year.

Yggdrasill · 11-04-2006, 02:43 PM

Gay marriage doesn't really bother me, people should honestly live how they want to. If I saw a Gay couple walking down the street I wouldn't be bothered by it because I'm actually open-minded.

**This next bit is all my opinion, people who believe in God don't be offended.**

Plus, since I'm an Atheist I don't think it's wrong in any way, if you ask me it's the catholic church what is in the wrong. God hasn't done anything to help the world so why should I, in turn, waste my time creating false hope that there's a God?
People say God can't tell us how to live, yet theres these stupid rules which say there can't be any homosexual marriage, I'm actually glad i'm an Atheist because now I don't have to hear all this rubbish about how i'll go to hell if I don't "Obey" God. =P

**Phoenix Flame** · 11-09-2006, 08:16 AM

I, on the other hand, disagree. I feel that if there is no God, none of us would be here. The complexities that make up the body, the amount of information in our DNA, the desire to be free and thrive - IMO - could NOT have come from nothingness.

To say that you extinguish a 'false hope' by denouncing the existence of a creator...how so? Obviously, this isn't Spira - we are not dreams.

I guess dying to reconsile His creation wasn't doing anything to help either, huh? But if you do not believe the Bible is Truth, then nothing matters at all. Eat, drink and be merry - for tomorrow we die. There is no heaven, no hell, only now....but I challenge you with this thought: what if your thinking is wrong?

This is a 'battle' that really goes much deeper than the physical. It makes no difference to some, but I pray for them to realize that.

We'll all find out - that fateful day when our energy converts to another form - as Newton puts it.

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11-01-2006, 06:57 PM	#4
Hydra 3, 2, 1, Let's Jam Join Date: May 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 8,560	Re: Same Sex Marrige I doubt it. It's just very easy to see. __________________ LEft.

11-02-2006, 03:00 PM	#6
Luis ·· Fresón rebelde ·· Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,539	Re: Same Sex Marrige I'm glad of it too Av. Honestly, I voted yes. They should be able to do it. In fact, they're able to do it in Spain. But what kind of marriage do you mean? Because I understand if you marry in the City Hall, but I find it a li'l strange if you mean marriage in The Church, since it's against it. I mean, if what you want is to get married, I think that doing it in a non-religious way would be good and enough, ''cause after all you get married, and we all know The Church is against it too. However, if you wanna do it under a religious point of view, I don't see the problem either, but the religious community will. LOVE IS FREE FOR EVERYONE __________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Every story begins with a name

11-03-2006, 09:13 PM	#10
Unknown Kaze Cactuar Thorn Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: England Age: 36 Posts: 70	Re: Same Sex Marrige Not off the top of my head at this moment (being in college) but I will dig some up for you... __________________

11-03-2006, 10:00 PM	#11
Seyluv Isu's Empress/Wife Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: ??? Posts: 5,441	Re: Same Sex Marrige Here is my essay, I hate how I written it, but whatever Same Sex Marriage Over the years, Humans have fought many wars to earn certain rights, as well as raged war to make other believed a certain way they do. From fighting for religon rights, to equal rights, and even race rights. To be treated equaly is the American Dream to many, but what is it really? As the years go by we all learn from the mistakes we made in the past. Yet there is still to this day a lot of fights and wars people are fighting. The new battle heating up in our society is the battle for Same sex marriage. Should gay people have the right to married? Can you love be about more then just about sex? Are gays treated the same as we? An friend once told me that ? We are all people, that gays have the same rights as we. Just what the problem with them being able to marry.? Getting back to what I said early we for many years have been fighting for rights and freedom. Why now in this age are people to take the right for gays to marry. I don?t understand, we lived in America. This land we live in is supposed to be the land of freedom. We all supposed to have equal rights, just why does it really matter if you are gay or not. Another thing I don?t get is that in this land we all live in there is a law that states that no one can speak or even discuss religion in a public place or so. Anyway a lot of people in this great battle are all saying and even some politics that it is a ?Sin? for two people of the same sex to get married. That men and women are made to be together. If this is a law that no one can speak about regions then why are all these people are trying to make this debate based on regions? "Love isn?t just sex". Love to me is being happy with the person you love, and keeping your vows true. I really don?t have a problem with any two men or females getting married. I?d rather see a gay happy couple then a straight sad couple. If they?re happy with each other and truly in love, then why not give them that right. I know we all see things differently, but just because he/she thinks it nasty for two people to be married doesn?t mean we have a right to take away their right. Love shouldn?t be decided by your race or even your sex. Love is for all people it really shouldn?t matter what you are. All that matters is that you love strongly that person you want to married. Are gay people treated differently in our society? What do you think? Is it easy to be gay in our society? I believe that one thing gay people really bring out that is really is amazing is their courage. It?s hard these days, well in most time periods to come out and say I?m gay. To just come out and tell your parents or even your straight lover. To come out as they do is quiet amazing to me. But when they do come out, they life changes in many ways. They are looked at differently and even turn down from some things just because of their sexuality. They are not always treated equal by everyone. For example in the past wars, gays weren?t allowed to enlisted in the military. Only a few years back it they finality got that right. It isn?t all bad being gay. Over the past years people have begun to accept same sex couples. More and more people and even famous people we grew to love have even came out and said that they are gay.. It has became more easier to come out now in our society. I hope one day to see gay people being treated equally as well as any group of people. I hope I have change you mind on the gay community. As you know now gays have fought for these rights as we. Gay people are human just as we. We all have the same rights and it doesn?t matter what you believed. We are all different and we all think and feel differently. Lastly there really isn?t no rule that can say who we can and cannot love. __________________

11-03-2006, 10:08 PM	#12
John Smith ~Wizard~ Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ragnarok Age: 33 Posts: 4,242	Re: Same Sex Marrige Nice. Appart for some spelling mistakes >.> __________________ I donated all the Ninja Cookies to church. Alas, all the children got obese! Click here to read Dragon Ball Multiverse! Includes several languages! =D

11-03-2006, 10:33 PM	#13
Seyluv Isu's Empress/Wife Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: ??? Posts: 5,441	Re: Same Sex Marrige Yeah, I made a lot of mistakes, but whatever as long as I get graded. I don't see how I did nine essays in one day laast year. __________________

11-04-2006, 02:43 PM	#14
Yggdrasill Cruxis Angel Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Fox Rivers Age: 32 Posts: 280	Re: Same Sex Marrige Gay marriage doesn't really bother me, people should honestly live how they want to. If I saw a Gay couple walking down the street I wouldn't be bothered by it because I'm actually open-minded. This next bit is all my opinion, people who believe in God don't be offended. Plus, since I'm an Atheist I don't think it's wrong in any way, if you ask me it's the catholic church what is in the wrong. God hasn't done anything to help the world so why should I, in turn, waste my time creating false hope that there's a God? People say God can't tell us how to live, yet theres these stupid rules which say there can't be any homosexual marriage, I'm actually glad i'm an Atheist because now I don't have to hear all this rubbish about how i'll go to hell if I don't "Obey" God. =P __________________ If you join remember to put "Delorean" as your referral. Homer: I've learned that life is one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead.

11-09-2006, 08:16 AM	#15
Phoenix Flame Go Umbarbar do my bidding Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: By myself. It's lonely ;-; Posts: 3,044	Re: Same Sex Marrige I, on the other hand, disagree. I feel that if there is no God, none of us would be here. The complexities that make up the body, the amount of information in our DNA, the desire to be free and thrive - IMO - could NOT have come from nothingness. To say that you extinguish a 'false hope' by denouncing the existence of a creator...how so? Obviously, this isn't Spira - we are not dreams. I guess dying to reconsile His creation wasn't doing anything to help either, huh? But if you do not believe the Bible is Truth, then nothing matters at all. Eat, drink and be merry - for tomorrow we die. There is no heaven, no hell, only now....but I challenge you with this thought: what if your thinking is wrong? This is a 'battle' that really goes much deeper than the physical. It makes no difference to some, but I pray for them to realize that. We'll all find out - that fateful day when our energy converts to another form - as Newton puts it. __________________ Fight, if there is something to fight for. Never give in, or give up - but ALWAYS give. Choose your battles wisely. You only get one shot at life. Follow your heart.

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