Same Sex Marrige

[John Smith]

Originally Posted by Slider

I mean COME ON, you even agree with Kaze

Try to understand the difference.

Kaze said that it goes against his religion, so he follows it. He doesn't even give a reason as to his reply.

And I DON'T agree with Kaze on this.

[Phoenix Flame]

Originally Posted by Slider

That was a harsh reason!!!
I mean COME ON, you even agree with Kaze
as for me, I refuse because I think it's useless for same sex, and that's aside from any religious influence, that's my personnal oppinion
(I also know it's merely a matter of time before ToD finds out I said something and comes to disagree )

LOL @ ^!

ToD's cool,.. that eyebrow wigs me out . Ne way, want to know more pep's opinion about the subject.

[Slider]

um... John
I said REASOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!!!!!!
I also see the diffrence, but I still think REASONIMALIVE was harsh on Kaze althought they support the same oppinion, besides it's a good thing to follow your religion!

[John Smith]

Originally Posted by Slider

um... John
I said REASOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!!!!!!
I also see the diffrence, but I still think REASONIMALIVE was harsh on Kaze althought they support the same oppinion, besides it's a good thing to follow your religion!

Oh, you were talking to reasonimalive?

I thought you were talking to me.

I'll leave that discussion for you 2 then
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Being a Christian, it goes against my religion, so no but I also cant stop it, so meh.

He could at least develop why he goes by his religion.

I'm a Christian too, but I have my opinion and he certainly has an opinion of his onw, even if it's not the same as the one I said. Not everyone thinks like oneanother. It would be too messy

[Staircase]

I think same sex marriage is alright. As Hydra said before, i'de rather see a happy gay couple, than a sad straight couple. I'm a strong Christian, but i don't believe that it is wrong to have same sex relationships. I think the bible has some things in it that aren't true, that people have passed over time. I don't think Jesus himself said that Gay marriage is unacceptable, i think it was an older Christian belief from BC when the Churches were used more as a ruling power than a church. But then again, i may be totally wrong and anger some people, but thats just my belief on the subject at hand. =)

[Phoenix Flame]

I get where you are coming from Slider. However, if you simply say "my religion says this" or "my religion tells me to do this," you might as well say "Well, my priest molested those kids...so......." Um,.. you get my point. Blindly following your religion (whatever it may be) without asking why I believe this or that doesn't help the other person reason. It may even anger the other person and they may percieve that person as a "bible thumper" or 'Jesus freak.' I like the latter.

But in the end, I'm certainly didn't mean to be rude - and if Kaze felt I was...well, he can say so. I used to be Baptist...but the silly, sometimes stupid rules that they made up as they went along drove me nuts - and away from the church. I've since found a non-denominational church. So, yeah! That's cool.

[Seyluv]

Thanks guys uyou all have been of great help to me. As soon as I am done I will tell you what I had writen in my essay. Anyway I didn't post this thread just as a boose for my essay. I really wanted toi bring out this issus to you all.

[Phoenix Flame]

No prob empress...how many pages does your essay have to be?

[Seyluv]

One page, which is easy. I have done it before last year and I really didn't feel like doing it again. Last year it only took me less then a hour to write and back then it was three pages. I can write a 30 page if i had to. Of couse to do that it would take me a while. Anyway thanks again.

[Seyluv]

Wow you all are really into this topic.

[Xartex]

For me, I see no good reason why thay souldn't be able to marry. They are going to live together wether you let them marry or not.

I do not belive in the bible so nothing it says about stuff like that matters to me.

[Phoenix Flame]

Originally Posted by Xartex

For me, I see no good reason why thay souldn't be able to marry. They are going to live together wether you let them marry or not.

I do not belive in the bible so nothing it says about stuff like that matters to me.

I don't know if you've heard of this Xartex, but someone once said that they don't believe in God, they don't care if He exists or not. A caring friend came and told that person that his view point was ok - it doesn't matter if this person believed in God or not, because God believed in them. They also said that it doesn't matter if they believe He exists or not, because God made us with the power of free will and the choice to have fellowship w/Him or not.

<Sigh...> Sadly, more and more people in this generation have been effected by the outtake of God from teaching in schools, parents wanting their children to 'think for themselves,' (which, admittedly - isn't wrong) and attacks and lies from the devil. Of course, you are entitled to your opinion, and I would not think of pushing you to see my viewpoint. I'm not here to argue...really. Just to say what I believe and if that helps anyone then I am happy. I hope that many, many more people see things differently in the coming years.



Unknown Kaze - do you know of other references from the Bible that disagree with the notion of gay marriage???

[Seyluv]

I really don't see the problem with them getting married. I mean we all for many years have always been fighting for rights. And yet people are trying to take away the right to marry from anyone who is gay.

[Spec Highwind]

The great problem of it is the children. Imagine yourself telling your friends that your parents are gay...

about they getting married... no oppinion

[Unknown Kaze]

Originally Posted by John Smith

Ah, but it doesn't say "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife AND NOT ANOTHER MAN:

Thats what I was talking about in my last post John